Rare low req shields - Guild Wars Forums

Lithril Ashwalker · Aug 05, 2010, 09:23 AM // 09:23

I see alot of people buying or selling ar:15 q8's and ar:11 q4 shields... Aren't they max q9 anyway? If ar:16 = q9 then shouldn't
q8 ar:15's be the same just minus one from ar and requirement?

Also where and how do I get these shields nm/hm?
How do I know I'd got a good shield?

MisterB · Aug 05, 2010, 09:46 AM // 09:46

Shields can drop with 16 AR and a req. of 8. From what I've found, rarity is as follows, ordered from most common to least:

Req. 8 AR 15
Req. 8 AR 16
Req. 7 AR 15

Random drops are random, so someone else may have different results. It's possible there may be a method to find these more frequently. I've found all of those in both normal and hard, from foes ranging in level between 20-30.

Fate Crusher · Aug 05, 2010, 09:53 AM // 09:53

Mo/W stance monks don't leave home without req7/8 shields so they can have the full amount of armour instead of half.

And because they're rare, there's a nice price tagged on them as well.

Thrilla Killa · Aug 05, 2010, 04:13 PM // 16:13

The q8 AR 15 aren't that expensive, but the other 2 can get some decent money. I do agree with the above posters though. Even though the drops are random, i've gotten 3 Q8 AR 15 Great Conch drops when raptor farming. I've never had a Q7 AR 15 drop, and i got 1 Q8 AR 16 a while back from a chest in Elona. If you want to try farming for them, my best guess would be raptors.

chowmein69 · Aug 05, 2010, 04:24 PM // 16:24

you can get those shields as random drops . ive gotten a few from Doa ,Mallyx and killings monsters in eotn .

Lithril Ashwalker · Aug 05, 2010, 04:58 PM // 16:58

I understand all except why q8 ar15 are rare if adding one to both ar snd req aren't they q9:16 making it a scam? Also the skin matters on rarity no? I'm not sure if u can still get max gold q7's of q8's that are os or insc however I have gotten insc q8 max shadowshield

Thrilla Killa · Aug 05, 2010, 05:12 PM // 17:12

It's mostly for secondary warriors for defense. Like stance monks, instead of having to put 9 into tactics to get the full benefit, you only need to put 8, and you get the full armor bonus, just -1. Most stance monks also bring Bonetti's Defense and Balanced Stance, so they are already feeding points into tactics anyway, so having the max armor available with less points feeding from your primary attributes helps alot especially in PvP.

Bristlebane · Aug 05, 2010, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Req 8 is a good req for a secondary, as you can put 12+10 in your primary attributes.
Req 9 would limit you to different stats like 12+9+3, or other less desired distribution.

Yawgmoth · Aug 05, 2010, 08:20 PM // 20:20

The best currently droppable armor/req combinations for shields is:
8al/req.0
9al/req.1
10al/req.2
11al/req.3
12al/req.4
13al/req.5
14al/req.6
15al/req.7
16al/req.8

and despite the common opinion the rarity of them does increase slightly with every higher shield and so a 16/8 is more rare than 15/7, at their given best dropsource level. Thus if you farm mobs of level 24 and higher you will actually get more 16/8 shields than 15/7, hence the common observation.

As for getting them, they're not even any rare, just watch all the blues that drop as the huge majority of your 16/8 or 15/7 shields will be white/blue.

15 armor / req.8 shields are much more common than any of the others, they're not on the edge of probability but in the middle, so you will get approximately the same number of 15/8 shields as for example 15/9 shields.

FengShuiDove · Aug 05, 2010, 08:37 PM // 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristlebane

Req 8 is a good req for a secondary, as you can put 12+10 in your primary attributes.
Req 9 would limit you to different stats like 12+9+3, or other less desired distribution.

12+9+9, which still isn't bad with runes.

I don't really understand the r7 al 15 because, although being more rare, a 7 attribute split is a lot uglier than 12-11-6 or 12-10-8.

But whatever.

Lithril Ashwalker · Aug 05, 2010, 09:03 PM // 21:03

for example if i got a purple Q7:AR14 inscribable great conch its valuable? if so how would i determine the price on it?

MisterB · Aug 05, 2010, 10:23 PM // 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

I don't really understand the r7 al 15 because, although being more rare, a 7 attribute split is a lot uglier than 12-11-6 or 12-10-8.

But whatever.

It's good for imbagon.

12 + 1 + 1 Spear
11 + 1 Leadership
6 + 1 Command

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lithril Ashwalker

for example if i got a purple Q7:AR14 inscribable great conch its valuable? if so how would i determine the price on it?

Price check forum, or search buy & sell forums to see if anyone else has bought or sold them, and what they sold for.

Premium Unleaded · Aug 05, 2010, 11:20 PM // 23:20

al15q7 gives a bit of safety if you get hit with weakness with a 12/10/8 attribute split.

school · Aug 06, 2010, 03:22 AM // 03:22

I have a Req7tactics/16AL Reduces Deep Wound 20% Aegis

Voodoo Rage · Aug 06, 2010, 03:31 AM // 03:31

I like the Req6/14 shield. 12+11 and 6 in tactics.

Aug 05, 2010, 09:23 AM // 09:23	#1
Lithril Ashwalker Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Alabama Profession: A/	Rare low req shields I see alot of people buying or selling ar:15 q8's and ar:11 q4 shields... Aren't they max q9 anyway? If ar:16 = q9 then shouldn't q8 ar:15's be the same just minus one from ar and requirement? Also where and how do I get these shields nm/hm? How do I know I'd got a good shield?

Aug 05, 2010, 09:46 AM // 09:46	#2
MisterB Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy Guild: [ban] Profession: W/	Shields can drop with 16 AR and a req. of 8. From what I've found, rarity is as follows, ordered from most common to least: Req. 8 AR 15 Req. 8 AR 16 Req. 7 AR 15 Random drops are random, so someone else may have different results. It's possible there may be a method to find these more frequently. I've found all of those in both normal and hard, from foes ranging in level between 20-30.

Aug 05, 2010, 09:53 AM // 09:53	#3
Fate Crusher Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pie-land Guild: Warlords Of The Underworld [WoTU] Profession: Mo/	Mo/W stance monks don't leave home without req7/8 shields so they can have the full amount of armour instead of half. And because they're rare, there's a nice price tagged on them as well.

Aug 05, 2010, 04:13 PM // 16:13	#4
Thrilla Killa Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Profession: W/A	The q8 AR 15 aren't that expensive, but the other 2 can get some decent money. I do agree with the above posters though. Even though the drops are random, i've gotten 3 Q8 AR 15 Great Conch drops when raptor farming. I've never had a Q7 AR 15 drop, and i got 1 Q8 AR 16 a while back from a chest in Elona. If you want to try farming for them, my best guess would be raptors.

Aug 05, 2010, 04:24 PM // 16:24	#5
chowmein69 Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2007	you can get those shields as random drops . ive gotten a few from Doa ,Mallyx and killings monsters in eotn .

Aug 05, 2010, 04:58 PM // 16:58	#6
Lithril Ashwalker Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Alabama Profession: A/	I understand all except why q8 ar15 are rare if adding one to both ar snd req aren't they q9:16 making it a scam? Also the skin matters on rarity no? I'm not sure if u can still get max gold q7's of q8's that are os or insc however I have gotten insc q8 max shadowshield

Aug 05, 2010, 05:12 PM // 17:12	#7
Thrilla Killa Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Profession: W/A	It's mostly for secondary warriors for defense. Like stance monks, instead of having to put 9 into tactics to get the full benefit, you only need to put 8, and you get the full armor bonus, just -1. Most stance monks also bring Bonetti's Defense and Balanced Stance, so they are already feeding points into tactics anyway, so having the max armor available with less points feeding from your primary attributes helps alot especially in PvP.

Aug 05, 2010, 07:34 PM // 19:34	#8
Bristlebane Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2008 Profession: Mo/	Req 8 is a good req for a secondary, as you can put 12+10 in your primary attributes. Req 9 would limit you to different stats like 12+9+3, or other less desired distribution.

Aug 05, 2010, 08:20 PM // 20:20	#9
Yawgmoth Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2005	The best currently droppable armor/req combinations for shields is: 8al/req.0 9al/req.1 10al/req.2 11al/req.3 12al/req.4 13al/req.5 14al/req.6 15al/req.7 16al/req.8 and despite the common opinion the rarity of them does increase slightly with every higher shield and so a 16/8 is more rare than 15/7, at their given best dropsource level. Thus if you farm mobs of level 24 and higher you will actually get more 16/8 shields than 15/7, hence the common observation. As for getting them, they're not even any rare, just watch all the blues that drop as the huge majority of your 16/8 or 15/7 shields will be white/blue. 15 armor / req.8 shields are much more common than any of the others, they're not on the edge of probability but in the middle, so you will get approximately the same number of 15/8 shields as for example 15/9 shields.

Aug 05, 2010, 09:03 PM // 21:03	#11
Lithril Ashwalker Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Alabama Profession: A/	for example if i got a purple Q7:AR14 inscribable great conch its valuable? if so how would i determine the price on it?

Aug 05, 2010, 11:20 PM // 23:20	#13
Premium Unleaded Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005	al15q7 gives a bit of safety if you get hit with weakness with a 12/10/8 attribute split.

Aug 06, 2010, 03:22 AM // 03:22	#14
school Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2006	I have a Req7tactics/16AL Reduces Deep Wound 20% Aegis

Aug 06, 2010, 03:31 AM // 03:31	#15
Voodoo Rage Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sacramento, CA Guild: Geezers Profession: R/	I like the Req6/14 shield. 12+11 and 6 in tactics.